Wednesday, June 23, 2010

Mother wants to abort dad wants the child, child, by nature wants to live?

is it a reasonable compromise for the mother to carry the child and hand him/her over after the nine mts. like a surrogate? the upside to this is everyone gets what they want in the end, mother puts herself out briefly and the father and child get a chance at a long relationship with each other.





is this reasonable/unreasonable.





(dad agrees to pay for any surgery to help restore your body)Mother wants to abort dad wants the child, child, by nature wants to live?
It's a fair deal. Besides; what's nine months anyways? It's a bit of time that's all. And no, I'm not going to worry about why I didn't want to get pregnant and get all bent out of shape; whether I've been there or not; it makes no sense to me; life always goes on whether or not I'm mad, sad and or glad. So, let's make the best of it. Now I have a question for you. What are we going to do is through the course of time I fall deeply in love with this child I'm carrying for you; what then?Mother wants to abort dad wants the child, child, by nature wants to live?
compromise we shall Report Abuse

Child by nature wants to live eh? How many teenagers have you met? Seriously though Juno was a fantastic movie, and I commend any women who would carry a baby just for the sake of the baby and someone else. However I am also pro choice and believe every case is different, it depends a lot on weather or not the mother and father have plans on staying together (it is drastic on a child to later learn that they were born as a burdon to the mother and things have a way of coming out in the wash like it or not)finacial situations, and last but not least if the mother has a drug problem including drinking it is not fair to the child to be raised in such conditions.
I think it is unreasonable for a man to make a decision that involves a woman's body. You see, he has the choice in the beginning not to create the life with someone who does not want it. If he is that concerned with what happens to his sperm once it enters a woman's body he must make the wise choice not to put his penis in a woman who does not share the same values.





If he does not make a wise choice, once his sperm leaves his body and enters the woman, she has the final say.





While I do not believe in abortion I also do not believe in a man complaining after the fact (after he gets someone pregnant) one way or the other. You must know who you are having sex. A man can exercise self- control and self pleasure while he dates and finds someone with the same values and then marry her and then have sex with her. Then he wouldn't be in this type of situation.
I think it's a reasonable comprimise. I'm a huge believer that both should exercise self control. the man and the woman. but if the only reason for abortion is that she wants her body back and he agrees to pay for it. then it is a resonable suitation. The child is only half the mother and the rest is the father DNA making the child a completely sepreate person from the mother but taking up space in the mother womb. If she really doesn't want to have the child. she should sign all legal rights up to the father.
unreasonable as a natural bond forms between the mother and child in the nine months which is difficult to break just like that.Dad should look for someone totally willing to be a surrogate if he wants only a child without a family-but the bit about paying for the surgery is always welcome!
Nope, not reasonable. It's her choice.


She can give the baby to him, but she still is a mother when she doesn't want to be.





What about men who abandon the woman whom they've impregnated?


Until a man can birth a child, he has no say in whether or not a child is carried.
Yes it is reasonable if they are married.





Marriage has an inbuilt assumption that a child would be born out of wedlock. Let us not talk of those ';exceptional'; cases, where married people do not purposely want to have children.
jwinning %26amp; Laela put forth the only reasonable answers %26amp; compromise to your inquiry. Reread %26amp; comprehend what they are saying. That will be best for the child, who indeed should be the focus here.
no it's not reasonable. it's not the fathers body that will be going through the pregnancy. his lifestyle doesn't have to change, just hers. her body her choice.
the mother needs to stop being selfish and have he child, abortion is cold blooded murder and the father has a say when its his child. this woman needs to learn responsiblility
it's still a woman's choice to be a surrogate or not. taking away choice returns women to the dark ages when men ruled.
I don't think the mother should have to carry the child. This is where an artificial womb would come in handy.
Yes, responsibility is reasonable to the child. A father is not a surrogate when two have sex outside a marriage and a child is conceived.





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If the mother exihibits hatred for human life she should be held accountable to carry her child for nine months and no, unless she wakes up the father of the child should not marry a woman who would request such a thing.





The action of sex does not involve your body ladies? When two become one during sex because you are sharing your body with person out of wedlock or within marriage and so is the man...that's just your body involved? If a person fails to accept the reality of how life comes about then do not engage in sex until you do.





I totally am against this ';it's my body'; excuse because a child relies on a woman's body to grow, however is an individual, proof being THE MOTHER who wants to abort seems to feel entitled to individuality but not the child that requries a mother's body to birth. What's the point to say ';I have a body'; while at the same time there is no mention of a child who has a body also. Go to a playground and look at the children laughing and playing and then come on here and try to convince society that little girls and boys who grow into adults don't have bodies. Yet you have a body? I agree that a woman has a body and so does a man. People know that already.
Pregnancy puts a huge strain on the body, above and beyond that surgery can put right. It leaches your bones of calcium, changes they way the body functions forever, and has been linked to many future health problems.





Once there's a way to grow a baby outside of the womb from conception to birth, then the guy can have this type of say. Until then, there's such as strain on the woman that he can't force her. The fetus at the point you can abort it does not have wants or even reponses (early on) btw.





I do understand the issue though - at a personal level, I would consider it immoral if the girl doesn't at least discus these options with the guy, but I can't see a way to legally enforce it that wont produce more problems.
A fetus' brain (or even an infant's brain) is not sufficiently developed for a child to understand the concept of ';wanting to live';. Maybe Nature aimed for the child to live by having it live until now, but a child ';by nature'; cannot ';want to live';.





That aside,





';Mothers puts herself out briefly'; - Any woman who has gone through a pregnancy or two or three (etc) will tell you that it is not a matter of ';putting oneself out briefly';. This is, in fact, why most woman would not be willing to act as a surrogate. It is close to impossible for most women to have a child growing within and not to have a whole array of physical and emotional impacts. I'm not going to get into the whole, big, too-much-for-words, thing about the impact a pregnancy, itself, has on a woman. Just because a few women are willing/able to act as surrogates that does not mean all women can/would be willing/able to handle that emotionally.





The surgery remark: Not all pregnancies/deliveries result in bad things happening to a body; but even if they do, offering to pay for surgery to fix it is, again, not having any idea that surgery is a big deal for a lot of people. Some women would rather live with damage than have surgery. Others would rather not have the damage in the first place and never NEED surgery.





Also, it is generally not in the nature of most women to be able to carry a baby to term and then just ';hand him over';.


Go to the ';adoption'; section of answers, and read about some of the heartache that birth mothers have when they ';hand over'; their baby for adoption. They don't just have it for a few days. It can last a lifetime. Not wanting to go through with a pregnancy and even not wanting to have a baby don't mean a woman is capable of going through the pregnancy and handing over a baby she has carried for the whole time.





Women generally don't want to go through a life of heartbreak, and many worry that being adopted will cause problems for their child as well.





Women generally want what is best for the child they have, and what is best isn't necessarily not to have one's own mother. What kind of thing is it for a child to know his mother handed him over to his father - and then disappeared.





Some women believe there are worse things than being aborted early on. Also, some expectant mothers don't believe the baby's father would make a very mature or capable father.





Men need to be ';men'; when it comes to understanding one thing: If you risk an unwanted pregnancy with a woman who doesn't want a pregnancy you're going to risk having to deal with her getting an abortion you don't want her to get.





Before people risk unwanted pregnancies they need to know, for sure, the views of both parties on abortion.





Men need to also realize that a woman who says she wouldn't get an abortion may just change her mind if she's faced with a pregnancy she doesn't want.





In your proposed plan, the only person who gets what he wants is the father. The mother who may believe that every child deserves a mother who wants him and who is able to be a good mother to him doesn't get what she wants. The baby doesn't ';want'; anything. As far as being killed goes, some women believe that stopping a baby from developing early on is more merciful than allowing him to be born to a mother who doesn't want him (and - one way or another - will give him away). (I'm not necessarily defending abortion - only pointing out how some people think.)





Your plan sounds like the plan of a very young boy, who has no idea about the implications/impact of pregnancy on mothers-to-be. No, it is not reasonable.

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